{"id":8941,"date":"2016-09-21T17:21:40","date_gmt":"2016-09-21T15:21:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.websupport.sk\/blog\/?p=8941"},"modified":"2025-03-11T21:06:55","modified_gmt":"2025-03-11T20:06:55","slug":"nezmyselna-pokuta-vydieranie-boj-so-statom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.websupport.sk\/blog\/2016\/09\/nezmyselna-pokuta-vydieranie-boj-so-statom\/","title":{"rendered":"Nezmyseln\u00e1 pokuta, vydieranie a boj so \u0161t\u00e1tom"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\"><b>Doba \u010d\u00edtania:<\/b><\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 4<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">min.<\/span><\/span><p>Predstavte si, \u017ee ste majite\u013eom obrovsk\u00e9ho hotela. Denne sa v \u0148om vystriedaj\u00fa tis\u00edcky host\u00ed. Jedn\u00e9ho kr\u00e1sneho d\u0148a sa v hoteli stane vra\u017eda. Spust\u00ed sa vy\u0161etrovanie. \u010co v\u0161ak \u010dert nechcel, vy\u0161etrovatelia nevedia vraha n\u00e1js\u0165. Za t\u00fato ohavn\u00fa vec v\u0161ak mus\u00ed by\u0165 niekto potrestan\u00fd. <strong>Rozhodn\u00fa sa preto potresta\u0165 majite\u013ea hotela<\/strong>. Smie\u0161ne, v\u0161ak?<\/p>\n<h2>Registr\u00e1tor vs. majite\u013e dom\u00e9ny<\/h2>\n<p>Nasp\u00e4\u0165 do reality. WebSupport je hostingov\u00e1 firma a registr\u00e1tor dom\u00e9n. Na\u0161i z\u00e1kazn\u00edci maj\u00fa u n\u00e1s zaregistrovan\u00e9 tis\u00edcky dom\u00e9n. Medzi in\u00fdmi aj evysledky.sk, tiket.sk, flashscore.sk, alebo a sktipy.sk. Ak kliknete na niektor\u00fa z t\u00fdchto dom\u00e9n, prehliada\u010d v\u00e1m zobraz\u00ed weby umiestnen\u00e9 na zahrani\u010dn\u00fdch serveroch, ktor\u00e9 <strong>propaguj\u00fa hazardn\u00e9 hry<\/strong>. A na Slovensku je propagovanie hazardn\u00fdch hier bez licencie zak\u00e1zan\u00e9, s \u010d\u00edm absol\u00fatne s\u00fahlas\u00edme a je to tak spr\u00e1vne.<\/p>\n<p>Z toho d\u00f4vodu sa za\u010dalo v tejto veci vy\u0161etrovanie v r\u00e9\u017eii Da\u0148ov\u00e9ho \u00daradu a Finan\u010dnej spr\u00e1vy. Bez probl\u00e9mov sme spolupracovali a na \u017eiados\u0165 \u00faradn\u00edkov\u00a0sme poskytli v\u0161etky d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e9 inform\u00e1cie o majite\u013eoch dom\u00e9n, ktor\u00ed za ne zodpovedaj\u00fa. Ostatne, rob\u00edme to tak v\u017edy a s ochotou.<\/p>\n<p>Po kr\u00e1tkom \u010dase sa v\u0161ak \u00faradn\u00edci rozhodli, \u017ee s majite\u013eom dom\u00e9n komunikova\u0165 nechc\u00fa. A u\u017e v\u00f4bec nie, ak je cel\u00fd obsah v zahrani\u010d\u00ed. Logika nepust\u00ed &#8211; dom\u00e9ny sa predsa registrovali cez n\u00e1s, cez WebSupport. Skr\u00e1tka si povedali, \u017ee si to cel\u00e9 u\u013eah\u010dia a pokutu po\u0161l\u00fa prv\u00e9mu, kto je na dosah. <strong>Rozhodli sa potresta\u0165 n\u00e1s, registr\u00e1tora dom\u00e9n<\/strong>. V\u00f4bec ich nezauj\u00edmala zmluva, pod\u013ea ktorej za dom\u00e9ny a obsah zodpoved\u00e1 klient.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Cel\u00e9 je to na hlavu postaven\u00e9! \u0160t\u00e1t tak\u00fdmito pokutami re\u00e1lne ohrozuje funk\u010dn\u00e9 a poctiv\u00e9 firmy, ktor\u00e9 m\u00f4\u017eu re\u00e1lne skrachova\u0165.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Z\u00e1stupcovia Da\u0148ov\u00e9ho \u00faradu a Finan\u010dn\u00e9ho riadite\u013estva n\u00e1m po\u010das vykon\u00e1vania kontroly \u00a0dokonca povedali neuverite\u013en\u00fa vetu, z ktorej sa e\u0161te teraz spam\u00e4t\u00e1vame: \u201cMy vieme, \u017ee vy (WebSupport) na tie dom\u00e9ny nevklad\u00e1te \u017eiadny obsah\u201d, \u017eia\u013e &#8230;<\/p>\n<h2>Absurdn\u00e1 pokuta 80 000 \u20ac<\/h2>\n<p>Cel\u00fd proces za\u010dal e\u0161te v roku 2014, odkedy sme mesiace opakovane dokladovali a vysvet\u013eovali, kto je majite\u013eom dom\u00e9ny a kto sme my. Napriek tomu n\u00e1s vo febru\u00e1ri 2016 Da\u0148ov\u00fd \u00farad upovedomil o za\u010dat\u00ed spr\u00e1vneho konania. N\u00e1sledne sa veci za\u010dali h\u00fdba\u0165 pomerne r\u00fdchlo. V apr\u00edli 2016 Da\u0148ov\u00fd \u00farad rozhodol o udelen\u00ed sankcie za propag\u00e1ciu hazardn\u00fdch hier. Vinn\u00edkom sme teda pod\u013ea \u0161t\u00e1tu my a <strong>adekv\u00e1tna pokuta za 4 dom\u00e9ny je 80 000\u20ac!!! <\/strong>Za rovnak\u00fa absurdnos\u0165 pri 2 dom\u00e9nach dostali pokuty aj \u010fal\u0161\u00ed 2 registr\u00e1tori (obaja po 20 000\u20ac).<\/p>\n<h2>Argumenty a odvolanie<\/h2>\n<p>Samozrejme, \u017ee sme sa odvolali. Nebol probl\u00e9m sp\u00edsa\u0165 logick\u00e9 a podlo\u017een\u00e9 argumenty. Verili sme, \u017ee absurdnos\u0165 tejto situ\u00e1cie dok\u00e1\u017eeme logicky vysvetli\u0165. Boli sme si takmer ist\u00ed, \u017ee zv\u00ed\u0165az\u00ed zdrav\u00fd rozum nad ma\u0161in\u00e9riou moci. Tu s\u00fa 3 najsilnej\u0161ie argumenty:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Zodpovednos\u0165, kam smeruje dom\u00e9na, je vylo\u017eene na pleciach klienta, podlo\u017een\u00e1 v\u0161eobecn\u00fdmi obchodn\u00fdmi podmienkami, s ktor\u00fdmi s\u00fahlas\u00ed pri n\u00e1kupe. Rovnako, ako my s\u00fahlas\u00edme s podmienkami n\u00e1rodn\u00e9ho registr\u00e1tora .sk dom\u00e9ny (SK-NIC)<\/li>\n<li>Nie je technicky mo\u017en\u00e9, aby registr\u00e1tor kontroloval ka\u017ed\u00fa jednu dom\u00e9nu, kam smeruje a ak\u00fd obsah zobrazuje. O to viac ka\u017ed\u00fd de\u0148, ke\u010f\u017ee klient si smerovanie m\u00f4\u017ee kedyko\u013evek zmeni\u0165.<\/li>\n<li>Samotn\u00e1 registr\u00e1cia a vlastn\u00edctvo dom\u00e9ny nijako z\u00e1kon o hazardn\u00fdch hr\u00e1ch neporu\u0161uje s nepropaguje. Dom\u00e9ny mali navy\u0161e obsah smerovan\u00fd na obsah umiestnen\u00fd v zahrani\u010d\u00ed.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>\u010cere\u0161ni\u010dka na torte &#8211; VYDIERANIE<\/h2>\n<p>V priebehu tejto kauzy sme sa dokonca dozvedeli o \u010fal\u0161ej perli\u010dke v tomto pr\u00edpade. Pred udelen\u00edm pok\u00fat sa obom registr\u00e1torom ozval ist\u00fd Tom\u00e1\u0161 Kol\u00edk, ktor\u00fd \u017eiadal 5 000\u20ac za inform\u00e1ciu, ktor\u00e1 pom\u00f4\u017ee vyhn\u00fa\u0165 sa sankcii. Registr\u00e1tor nev\u00e1hal a podal trestn\u00e9 ozn\u00e1menie za pokus o vydieranie. Sk\u00faste h\u00e1da\u0165, ako to dopadlo.<\/p>\n<p>Okresn\u00e1 prokurat\u00fara rozhodla, \u017ee <strong>skutok sa nestal<\/strong>. Email od p\u00e1na Kol\u00edka bol vraj len zle naformulovanou obchodnou ponukou. Neuverite\u013en\u00e9! Smie\u0161ne, amat\u00e9rske a tr\u00e1pne.<\/p>\n<h2><b>Ideme sa s\u00fadi\u0165 so \u0161t\u00e1tom<\/b><\/h2>\n<p>Nie sme \u017eiadni anarchisti a \u0161t\u00e1tu odv\u00e1dzame poctivo ka\u017ed\u00fa povinnos\u0165 na cent presne. M\u00e1me to tu naozaj radi, podnik\u00e1me tu, plat\u00edme dane, odvody, zamestn\u00e1vame \u013eud\u00ed a \u010fal\u0161\u00edm tis\u00edckam pom\u00e1hame podnika\u0165. Pova\u017eujeme v\u0161ak za d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e9 o tak\u00fdchto pr\u00edpadoch hovori\u0165 nahlas, aby mal syst\u00e9m \u0161ancu sa opravi\u0165.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nechceme skloni\u0165 hlavu, ke\u010f vieme, \u017ee sme v pr\u00e1ve<\/strong>. Nechceme, aby ste ju skl\u00e1\u0148ali ani VY ostatn\u00ed, ktor\u00ed vo svojich oblastiach za\u017e\u00edvate podobn\u00e9 veci. Ak v\u00e1s n\u00e1\u0161 pr\u00edpad posmel\u00ed, bude ma\u0165 tento boj zmysel. My sa nevzd\u00e1vame a ideme sa s\u00fadi\u0165 so \u0161t\u00e1tom.<\/p>\n<h2><b>Nebezpe\u010dn\u00fd precedens <\/b><\/h2>\n<p>V tomto momente mus\u00edme bohu\u017eia\u013e pokutu zaplati\u0165. Vyzer\u00e1 to v\u0161ak ako neprijemn\u00fd precedens, ke\u010f\u017ee \u0161t\u00e1t si takto pod\u013ea vlastnej v\u00f4le n\u00e1silne\u00a0vyber\u00e1 pokuty. Tento v\u00fdvoj znamen\u00e1, \u017ee postihnut\u00ed m\u00f4\u017eu by\u0165 kedyko\u013evek aj \u010fal\u0161\u00ed registr\u00e1tori. A nielen t\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>Pre \u00faplnos\u0165 priklad\u00e1me aj d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e9 dokumenty:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.websupport.sk\/blogoads\/sites\/2\/2016\/09\/danovy-urad-rozhodnutie-20.4.2016.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">D\u00da &#8211; Rozhodnutie<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.websupport.sk\/blogoads\/sites\/2\/2016\/09\/odvolanie-websupport-20160504.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Odvolanie<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.websupport.sk\/blogoads\/sites\/2\/2016\/09\/2016.08.10.-rozhodnutie-frsr-o-odvolani-websupport-ca-du-ba.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Potvrdenie pokuty<\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p class=\"p1\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Predstavte si, \u017ee ste majite\u013eom obrovsk\u00e9ho hotela. Denne sa v \u0148om vystriedaj\u00fa tis\u00edcky host\u00ed. Jedn\u00e9ho kr\u00e1sneho d\u0148a sa v hoteli stane vra\u017eda. Spust\u00ed sa vy\u0161etrovanie. \u010co v\u0161ak \u010dert nechcel, vy\u0161etrovatelia nevedia vraha n\u00e1js\u0165. Za t\u00fato ohavn\u00fa vec v\u0161ak mus\u00ed by\u0165 niekto potrestan\u00fd. Rozhodn\u00fa sa preto potresta\u0165 majite\u013ea hotela. Smie\u0161ne, v\u0161ak? Registr\u00e1tor vs. majite\u013e dom\u00e9ny Nasp\u00e4\u0165 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":100,"featured_media":8945,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2,11],"tags":[488,670,805,956],"class_list":["post-8941","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-business","category-zakulisie","tag-media","tag-pokuta","tag-stat","tag-websupport"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Nezmyseln\u00e1 pokuta, vydieranie a boj so \u0161t\u00e1tom - Websupport blog<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.websupport.sk\/blog\/2016\/09\/nezmyselna-pokuta-vydieranie-boj-so-statom\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"sk_SK\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Nezmyseln\u00e1 pokuta, vydieranie a boj so \u0161t\u00e1tom - Websupport blog\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Predstavte si, \u017ee ste majite\u013eom obrovsk\u00e9ho hotela. 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